Consistent exposure to concentrated levels of background radiation for an extended period of time will randomly result in humans undergoing a mutation/transformation into the ghoul species. Then again, the lore behind that idea is lost by the retconning of the airborne FEV. In Fallout 3 Super Mutants can also be pre-war humans. SUBSCRIBE TO FOB: http://bit.ly/1gI9KrO "Immortals" from Disney's Big Hero 6 (inspired by the Marvel comic). Surprisingly Intelligent. We did state that ghouls have lost their humanity, however, they're still … How long exactly? Many ghouls are pre-War humans who survived the initial nuclear bombardment during the Great War. I can’t remember but didn’t random ghouls turn feral at some point in fo4? Ghouls, being subject to heavy radiation damage in addition to the mutations that keep them alive, are sterile. Sorry I’m not that good with the lore. Yesn't. Ghouls are not immortal, they can still die. This is probably a remains of the base game, with the Ghoul representing the essential and thus immortal … Camp Searchlight would also show that quick, perhaps even instantaneous transformations are not unheard of or out of the question. Some ghouls do experience neural deterioration and become Ferals. Fallout likes to take liberties in its universe. Or at least what’s the longest one has lived? they can die of old age if they can age, Hancock has also just been a ghoul for a little while, it's not like he's several hundred years old and have known ghouls that have actually died of old age, on top of this, we have no evidence that ghouls actually can die from old age, as deaths because of old age is usually due to diseases and conditions related to their advanced age. The Fallout Series is a series consisting of five role playing games (named Fallout 1,2, and 3, 4 [upcoming] and New Vegas) and two more action-oriented spin offs named Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel; both of which are considered non-canon by developers and generally ignored by the players. Click to expand... Don't underestimate the irresistible urge of glowing ghoul cock. Becoming permanently irradiated, they were horribly disfigured and their lifespans were increased virtually indefinitely. Maybe it’s 500 years and ghouls won’t start dying off until the 2500s. When hostile, the Ghoul can still not be killed. Due to unknown factors, rather than suffer organ failure, their bodies mutated and adapted to … From all of the Bethesda era games, we know that feral ghouls have some degree of advanced deformity, the origins of which are up to interpretation, with the most prevalent theories being either extensive tumors, or just unhealed damage (case in point all barrels are depicted missing toes, and teeth). Fallout 3 ghouls? Yeah I mean I just never considered some SPECIAL perks ,,canon''. So I think the question is still open, because people comment on the relative rarity of pre-war ghouls in fallout 3 (at least as I remember it). Ghouls are creatures that were originally ponies (or zebras and occasionally other creatures), but were corrupted by the necromantic Balefire radiation. Think the glowing version is one time chance after initial exposure or at least the lack of the opposite suggest its true. This having been said though, it is established lore that ghouls always eventually go feral, even if it takes hundreds of years, and there's a massive question as to whether being little more than a rabbid animal is really even qualifiable as a person. Yes and no. Ghouls can die from damage, as long as they're not given a chance to use radiation to heal from it. With many of the Immortals now trapped outside their home base, a few began to disperse into the wasteland. The idea I guess is that they are virtually immortal and will eventually die on their own, but I think the games subtly dance around with the idea that the slightly higher background radiation is the only thing sustaining that immortality. Ghouls are immortal rotting angels that don't need to eat or poop and can stay in metal bawkses for centuries with no ill effects. Ghouls will slowly turn feral which in a sense that person has died technically so they’re just going off of instinct. They do not age, and if they age its very slow. Press J to jump to the feed. There's no way of knowing that since there hasn't been any known cases of ghouls dying of old age. ... Well, you’d think that, but humans being exposed to radiation in general shouldn’t make a person immortal, either. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. You'd have to wait on The Enclave being able to experiment. Fawkes was a pre-war human that turned into a Super Mutant, for example. All the ghouls, save Oswald, in Kiddie Town Nuka World (or whatever it was called). It'd just be common knowledge to wastelanders after all. There was not a single ghoul that died of old age, which implies either biological immortality or such a long lifespan it doesn't make a practical difference, but their brain still decays with time, eventually turning them into feral ghouls. Immune to radiation but enough can still fry their brain to goo like ferals. Broken bones being unable to support their weight, ruined mouths unable to feed...etc. Long story short, even if you consider a feral ghoul still alive, with no sense of self preservation and objectively weaker physical characteristics, their days are effectively numbered. Although they look like a walking corpse, Ghouls are in fact otherwise normal humans who have been exposed to massive amounts of radiation during the Great War and survived against all odds. There was not a single ghoul that died of old age, which implies either biological immortality or such a long lifespan it doesn't make a practical difference, but their brain still decays with time, eventually turning them into feral ghouls. If you’re not an insane wiki-hopping Fallout researcher like some of us, you might not know the origin of Fallout’s immortal race of sentient zombies. I think that they all go feral eventually, in which case their life expectancy depends on the trajectory of the bullets headed their way, Since they csnt really have kids and most of them are mindless zombies I'd say eventually old age or simply extinction but Hancock has proved that through drugs and radiation ghouls are created all the time. Ghouls are a fascinating element in Fallout, both within the narrative and in the storied history of Fallout development. Nevertheless, for typical humans, any serious exposure to background radiation levels results in sickn… Look up Ghost People. They technically die when they go feral, brain dead. Consistent exposure to concentrated levels of background radiation for an extended period of time will randomly result in humans undergoing a mutation/transformation into the ghoul species. - Page 5. They are immortal in the sense that they can't due from old age (from what we've seen so far) and most diseases (according to some Ghoul NPCs). A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. 15 The evidence lies in Fallout 3, with the ghoul Roy Phillips from the Tenpenny Tower quest. They’re biologically immortal and will live forever under the right conditions. More posts from the falloutlore community. There is actually something even worse than a ghoul. Ghou… Ghouls or necrotic post-humans are decrepit, rotting, zombie-like mutants.They are victims of heavy radiation poisoning which results in their skin decaying and, paradoxically, greatly extends their individual lifetime. The children of atom of nutters who have the ability to survive radiation, like the ghouls, and look human, because ghouls are human... and they're only early stage. Ghouls to be non-feral ghouls - I discovered an issue where feral ghoul civilians could become immortal when trying to take over a settlement as a vassal, most likely due to them not having a bleed-out animation, causing Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. I want to say that applies to most wasteland creatures beyond any of the non-mutated animals you’d find in real life, but there’s evidence to disprove that. However, almost all of the rest gathered in Fort Boise Park to decide what to do next. Sadly, Ghouls cannot reproduce Due to the FEV both Super Mutants and Ghouls or anything that has become exposed to that much radiation that makes them immune to it or immortal makes them sterile level 2 But yeah I guess it all makes sense now. Radiation zombies lol, it doesn’t necessarily have to be of old age. Gordon of Gecko from Fallout 2 has a quote that indicates ghouls have a finite lifespan, however, saying that, "Without medical technology, all of us ghouls are going to die off in the next 20 years, anyway." I mean how often have you heard “we all die eventually” why wouldn’t they bring it up at least as often as that. There is evidence that literally, death of age is something they managed to overcome, just like super mutants... unfortunately, total neural degeneration is inevitable. The only reason they die is from outside causes like damage or malnourishment. Despite the deterioration of their bodies, they still possess most of their motor functions, this even includes magic, such as pegasus zom… But that might just be due to the odds of being killed unnaturally in that time. Ghouls are truly immortal. The only possible exception to this would be with glowing ones, where the frankly obscene amount of radiation they've taken on is capable of healing them faster than physical damage would accrue over time; for these poor bastards the only hope they really have is for some creature or traveler to kill them, or as Fallout 4 seem to indicate grow tumors large enough to explode. Like their brains turn to mush and they become feral? There in 2105, led by Captain Ford, the Immortals built a makeshift camp in Fort Boise Park and named it Fort Bo… Ghouls and supermutants are both seemingly biologically immortal, as they seemingly can't die from age nor disease. Not only where they immortal, they were also immune to everything, and could not be killed. Yesn't. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Camp Searchlightwould also show that quick, perhaps even instantaneous transformations are not unheard of or out of the question. You'd have to see their pure biology. They can still die in plenty of other way, just like normal humans, They do age tho mostly to them becoming feral, Think of them like Lobsters. Ghouls are nearly immortal. The player character may be forced into the radiation radius of the Ghoul when trying to leave Trinity Tower using the suspended platforms for descending. The name Ghoul comes from the mythological beings that devoured flesh and also resembled Ghouls. Please see our rules page for the most updated version our rules before commenting. Sure, anything’s possible with the right choice of science and fantastical whimsy. There are super mutants who are hundreds of years old, and pre-war ghouls still running around ( like Jason Bright and Fawkes ). I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. I might sound stupid but are ghouls immortal? Ghost people are mutated humans changed forever by the Cloud, a combination of corrosive rust-like toxins unique to the Sierra Madre. It could be possible that ghouls do only have an extended lifespan and aren’t ageless, but whatever that age limit is we haven’t reached it yet. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. No. As far as we know from canon, they're biologically immortal, meaning they can only be killed through extensive damage. Necrotic post-humans, commonly referred to as ghouls, are humans or animals who were subjected to fatal levels of radioactive poisoning, but did not die. Don’t they turn feral if they get exposed to TOO much radiation? A place to discuss the lore of the Fallout universe. A few days ago I tweeted about an alternate way to start playing Fallout 4. During the transformation process, they lose most of their coat and mane, giving them the appearance of a decaying corpse. That said, there are things they can't heal - as well as their obvious burns, damage to the brain or nervous system seems to be irreversible (thus so-called feral ghouls, who have suffered some sort of severe brain damage). For Fallout 4 on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Your biggest complaint about the game." We also have the nearly immortal ghost people, those are also pre-war people. No. Which would mean that lore-wise. They are the only ones able to walk in and out of the Cloud unharmed. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. As far as we know, yes. Ghouls are former humans who have become horribly irradiated by the radioactive fallout covering the wasteland from the Great War. It's worthy of consideration that, if they can die naturally, would they really discuss it? In Fallout 3 (Mothership Zeta DLC) and Fallout 4 we have cryogenics, so it's possible to have pre-war people that were in a cryogenesis stasis. Because of these facts then, it's reasonable to conclude that although not having a determinate lifespan like we do, at some point every ghoulified person will go feral, at which point they will stop taking care of themselves and literally fall apart due to damage. This having been said though, it is established lore that ghouls always eventually go feral, even if it takes hundreds of years, and there's a massive question as to whether being little more than a rabbid animal is really even qualifiable as a person. hancock in fallout 4 said that ghouls grow old at an extremely slow rate. The ghost people originate from construction work… New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Like you know breathing underwater etc. We've never known a ghoul to die of old age, and they can heal many injuries. they just live for a looooooong time. Not so much. just remember that immortals cannot die no matter what. This is a heavily moderated, focused discussion subreddit. It’s said a few times that ghouls just have very long lifespans, due to the special way the airborne FEV strain in their genes (the main subterranean West-tek facility holding it was hit with a bunker buster and released it into the atmosphere; this may or may not still be canon) reacted when they took on just enough radiation to make their skin melted, rotten and irritated and completely melting their noses and ears (which makes sense since they are only made of light skin and cartilage) and hopefully not their nervous systems as well; the brain at least (Ferals). to say nothing of the fact that we know sufficient physical trauma in the form of bullets and blunt force are fatal. No one knows how or why. I think possibly the original ghouls from Fallout 1 & 2 which were not immortal or had super speed and were shambling rotting meat on legs that could barely move might be close to this. 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